Is It Possible to Create My Own Martial Art Style

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  1. We've all seen enough of frauds being exposed for challenge their arts are something they are not.

    But to show anyone stumbling onto MAP for the first time, that we are non (some of the states at least, lol) an elitist grouping, who consider anything other than what we know to exist garbage, I'd like to hear peoples views on the above question.

    My opinion, is that I don't think there is any problem in creating your own style, as long as you are honest about what it is and honest about your preparation.

    I think, if you make up teachers, secret meetings, claim to teach something you lot have no feel in, give people imitation sense of indestructibility, etc, and then you lot deserve to crash and burn - But if you are honest about your style, I wish you well.

    I remember you can take inspiration from arts that you haven't trained in for whatever length of fourth dimension, for instance if y'all attended a seminar on Togakure Ryu, and took away some principals that yous apply to your manner, you lot can say that it has taken inspiration from Tokagure Ryu, simply y'all tin can't claim to have trained in Togakure Ryu if you haven't!!! the aforementioned applies to BBT, GNT, TSD, etc....

    To me, honesty is the key.

    Historically this was the case, the different styles out at that place were developed past people, others took what they wanted simply added a different flavor, or combined experience and a new manner formed - Just these are not frowned upon, considering those who take washed that in the past accept verifyable lineages and transmission, and accept not claimed to teach something they are not. (Those who have, take come under debate plenty of times) Yous tin can meet that this person created their style from 10 style, only wanted to concentrate on a particular area, or saw weakness in their initial mode and so developed it in a way they were happy with.

    At that place is also the argument that in the past styles were tested in battle, but that doesn't actually apply here. I have never fought in a 'battle' per say, but if I wanted to create my own fashion dealing with self defense force and modern street fighting, I've had plenty of exposure, there'south cipher to say that those who have created their own styles don't fit this category.

  2. In days of one-time these styles developed out of necessity. Nowadays styles come up out of the woodwork out of marketing, ego and cyberspace.
  3. Moi

    Moi Warriors alive forever x

    I call up anybody, particually cantankerous trainers, create their ain manner of fighting only to them make the jump to calling it an art in it's own correct is ego driven
  4. Yeah it's OK - I agree honesty is a good thing - that said, most people don't want honesty, they desire to believe that their teacher is a god who can perform the impossible <SIGH>
  5. As long as you admit what you have studied the ranks you actually did get, dont invent a fake history, employ fake photos, purchase former densho and claim yous inherited them or fifty-fifty buy blank densho and put a proper noun on it etc etc

    so yes why non do it. that is if thats what you want to practice.

    For me there are plenty of styles inm existance now that nosotros dont need any new ones. at that place is enough of everything for everyone today.

    Just remember the moment someone lies information technology will exist exposed and it will appear all over the web for all to laugh at

  6. Originally posted by embra - In days of old these styles developed out of necessity. Nowadays styles come out of the woodwork out of marketing, ego and internet.

    To some extent I concur, ego is a large reason, but what near those who beleive they can genuinely create a better way, or feel that they can laissez passer on their own experiences that take now gone beyond their initial style;

    A fleck simplified, but encounter beneath examples;

    Jigoro Kano - Studied Jujutsu, created Judo

    Bruce Lee - Studied Wing Chun, created Jeet Kune Do

    Morihei Ueshiba - Studied Daito Ryu, created Aikido

    Helio Gracie - Studied Jujutsu, created Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

    Can you honestly say that these arts developed out of necessity?

    Just they don't get the same flack every bit someone else creating their own matter now, why not?? Is it because they found fame so must be legitimate??

  7. As shortly as yous offset education Martial Arts every bit self defense force,and drawing upon your own personal experiences and ideas of relevance ,then it becomes "your own style",whether yous like it or not.
    The trouble is that "your own style"volition.by definition,non be perfectly suited to your students.And therefore should probably non be handed down for further transmission .
    I retrieve there are enough arts and styles upon which you tin can base your personal manner without trying to create a dynasty.

  8. I don't disagree with what you've said George, and I've never felt the urge to create my ain way for the reasons you've mentioned.

    Merely for the sake of this discussion, what if yous have been preparation in a sure style, you take reached a adept level of skill in that style, merely while grooming you discover something amazing, completely new to the MA world, simply it's not part of your style, and not something that would be accustomed by your fashion.

    You lot keep to work on this, train, exam, train, evaluate, until you are ready to share your finding with the world.

    Would this warrant you releasing information technology equally your own style?? Or would you say that you should yet call it by the style you were originally training in, even though similarities could be minute?

  9. The principal difference to me is that Kano took the functional parts of Ju Jitsu and compiled these into Judo, and so though Judo was a new style, it also was a amalgamation of constructive techniques that had been around for a very long fourth dimension.

    Similary with Helio Gracie, he studied Judo (non Ju Jitsu) and enhanced the newaza aspect of Judo to a very high level.

    And so both men took existing martial arts and combined and enchaned the techniques to to create something new. Whilst likewise forming their ain distinct training methods.

    Where every bit now with a lot of made upward martial arts, they just take existing techniques and phone call it a different name, without creating annihilation radically dissimilar, as Judo or BJJ was when they where invented.


  10. OK, so are y'all saying if y'all have actually made changes yourself, it's ok, only if yous're going to teach an original manner and just telephone call it a new name information technology'southward non ok?

    If and so, I'd agree with your point.

    A question though...

    What if you have someone, that has trained in a number of different Taijutsu styles (This could be transplanted with whatever style) they want to teach, and want to correct weaknesses in some of the styles with strengths from others, and then combine the dissimilar styles.

    They decide to call what they are didactics John Smith Taijutsu, and are completley honest near what that ways, their feel, etc, information technology's still taijutsu, just beingness chosen a different type of Taijutsu - Is this ok??

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  11. Moi

    Moi Warriors live forever x

    I think it's more than that they filled gaps that are no longer there. Bruce Lee developed a concept from what he had available to him at the time and so I'g not even sure it should be classed as a style equally such but that'due south probably another thread.
    So now everyone is at a phase where at that place are great arts out there to pick and choose from and mixing up a bit of this and a bit of that does not make information technology a style and following BL'south principles it's all just JKD unless it'southward a sport where it's a ruleset.
    The just matter that might be missing and I know the Dog brothers railroad train similar this and there used to be a lodge local to me that trained in a similar manner, is everyday household objects and modern items used as weapons to circumvent law. History repeating itself.

    What I do find funny though is when a 'new' art is created in 21century western nations it always tens to have an eastern name.

  12. Moi

    Moi Warriors live forever x

    Is taijutsu a pre-adamant art with set up moves or is it a primary inside which are sure techniques?
  13. Definitely another thread I think, the Wing Chun guys will want to know exactly what gaps there were in Ip Homo's Wing Chun...

    I have and hold with the point of Jeet Kune Do beingness a concept - was just giving examples of where people have washed something new without the criticism given others. before Jeet Kune Practise though, there was Jun Fan Wing Chun, which was more along the lines of what we are discussing here.

  14. That is one side of it.

    On the other manus, should yous make your own fine art? And if y'all do, should y'all expect to be treated with the aforementioned respect every bit Kano, Ueshiba, etc. All of them put in a lot of fourth dimension and effort before they went their own way.

    The typical person I see making up their own art do so before they fifty-fifty go far to a didactics rank in another art. If you are talking virtually ninjutsu, most of the folks just go through a video learning form and get a black belt that way before setting upwardly their own organisation.

    The problem so would not be that they are not beingness honest, just that they are expecting to exist treated as teachers, elite teachers really, without putting in the fourth dimension and effort that most of u.s. would respect. The more they human activity similar they deserve respect, the more people are probable to tell them they don't deserve it.

  15. There are dissimilar styles, that have their own identities.

    the meaning is actually using your body, and so can be interpreted in different ways.

    If yous look at Bujinkan and compare with Genbukan, you lot will come across a common theme, but differences in interpretation.

    Taijutsu, is similar an umbrella term, and there are and then a number of styles of taijutsu that volition fall nether the overall term.

    If that makes sense??

  16. hatsie

    hatsie Agile Member Supporter

    Not certain if this 'fits' but I am remembering my karate days, 1 of the requirements for 2 nd Dan iirc. Was to 'create' a technique.
    Seems a scrap strange when I think on it, anyone heard of annihilation similar?

    F w I due west, I think it's fine to create your own way, as long every bit your honest, espescially to your students!

  17. Moi

    Moi Warriors live forever x

    I think Bruce Lee took a lot of criticism.
    It's easier with sport because you lot've made the rules. The 2 notable ones in the list judo & BJJ were at conception probably very simple ruleset that fabricated a massive difference.

    The historical element is the fly in the ointment for my mode of thinking. Information technology's not my cup of tea but if someone wants to train in something historically accurate and so it's proper name should exist preserved.
    Personally just prefixing it with an instructors name or club name should exist sufficient. Those that care then know and everyone else but gets on with it

  18. I retrieve JKD is a adept instance.
    If you read the "Tao of JKD" you start to realise that its more well-nigh bruce lee's investigation into the development of his personal style.
    JKD in general isn't a style but a method to develop personal style.

    The development of personal manner is not a new fine art but its oft advertised as such.

    *Helio Gracie studied Judo, except he studied from a guy who specialised in groundwork. The Gracies were smart cos they advertised themselves and their style of Judo correctly (e.g. creating the UFC). No 1 had really seen this kind of stuff before so they thought Information technology was a new style.*

  19. Well, not really, and the reason I say that is that both Kano and Gracie took existing arts and refined them to such a level equally to create a new martial art, no martial art had been taught the way theirs had before, hence why both Judo and BJJ are pop around the earth, equally they are distinct martial arts that offer advantages that other martial arts practice not.

    If you combined differerent styles of Taijutsu or Karate, it would still exist Taijutsu or Karate, there would be cypher new there, simply a mash up of dissimilar techniques given some giddy name or the other.

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